I'm not sure how he is, but I'd say 50 to 55. Why does he look younger in the pics? Dunno. Maybe they're oldish photos? Or he's living well? Or being Jesus He just makes Himself look however He wants? But he's definitely the same John Miller. It would have been about 1994/96-ish that I last saw him.
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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness
by Hidden-Window ina documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".
i guess they mean elder.
does anybody from australia recognize him?.
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Max Divergent
God DOES NOT kill. Killing is done by those who CANNOT give that life back again. Jehovah does not kill, he simply takes away the lives of people who are disobedient but he has the ability to grant them life & restore life to them again if he wants to!
Do I remember right that there's no coming back from the second death?
Rev 21:8 (NWT): But as for the cowards and those without faith and those who are disgusting in their filth and murderer and the sexually immoral and those practicing spiritism and idolaters and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This means the second death.”
That's pretty much everyone, so I'm not sure if that technicality is technically right.
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Apparently the bible also promises the deaths of pretty much everyone now living, roughly 7 billion.
And then, in 1000-ish years everyone who gets through that (or is resurected or born or whatever, ie: a lot of people) but dosn't like the rules in Paradise gets done in too. If Paradise is run along JW rules, then probably a lot of people won't like Paradise: so lots more killings to come then.
Not that they're human, but I think there's also something about the demons being burned alive at the same time - there might be a lot of them.
Nothing like a good mass killing to show the Supreme Being to be the Almighty.
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Australian cult leader - A former Jehovah's Witness
by Hidden-Window ina documentary states that this cult leader, who claims to be jesus, used to be "a jehovah's witness pastor".
i guess they mean elder.
does anybody from australia recognize him?.
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He was called John Miller when he was a JW. He was the School Overseer in Port Augusta in South Australia last time I met him which might be 20 years ago.
John had some personal issues which led to divorce and DF, as I recall. He was always a friendly, smart guy. He repaired computers and pin ball machines from memory. He was quite popular and friendly.
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AAWA activists burst into a Kingdom Hall in Kent!
by raymond frantz inaawa activists burst into a kingdom hall in kent.
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In my view that was a disgrace.
At least there was a modicum of good humour and courtesy shown at times, but the overall act was aggressive, intrusive, disrespectful, selfish and annoying. Better judgement would have left it at that: but then they publish a video of their actions. It’s poor judgement to show a video of yourself acting boorishly.
In contrast, the JWs were calm, reasonable and firmly held up their rights.
JWs right. Apostates wrong. That’s not good.
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New XJW song video: Wish You'd Disappear: The great turnaround
by Inkvoid ina new video for a reworded version of pink floyd's 'wish you were here':.
'david' gets bad news at the kingdom hall: he's in trouble.
we see him wince as the judicial committee's decision to disfellowship him is finally announced.
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Well worth watching, especially the Mother song.
Good work.
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The EBOLA conspiracy...
by gopher123 inhey guys.
there has been a ton of illuminati hollywood mind control pre-programming about this virus outbreak before it actually happened.
conspiracy people of the world... unite.. .
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Evidence 1 = The U.S. government has a patent on EBOLA
Evidence 2 = There's an EBOLA outbreak in the U.S
So what? Having a patent and having an outbreak (if there is one) are different things. They have nothing directly to do with each other. It's not even a conspiracy theory, it's random factoids mashed together.
What are you getting at?
That USG having a patent on Ebola makes an 'outbreak' of Ebola in the US good for USG? Huh?
Profit? Not even a US court would make a person infected with Ebola pay royalties to USG for their use of Ebola, whether they're in the US or not.
You're missing a step (or a hundred) if you want to make a credible conspiracy theory (whatever that might mean) out of this.
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New Watchtower video on "real friends"
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5schopnecog.
it's difficult to imagine how this video could be more disingenuous and hypocritical.
cedars.
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It has nothing whatever to do with JW's, and it's a good video. It's just that it's irrelevent to the Watchtower.
Just at the end it says somthing like "choose your friends wisely, choose real friends" then goes to the JW.org graphic. That was the only jarring note, it's like a website, the JW website, is a real friend.
The e=mc2 graphic was funny: as if physics education is encouraged by JWs! LOL!
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No bibles at any kingdomhalls, strong rumors the annual meeting is regarding the bible...
by EndofMysteries infrom relatives and contacts in 2 states, there have been no bibles available for a couple months.
one person mentioned to me as well about supposed quotes in the magazines from other bibles.
rumors are that they will announce a new bible, or possibly tell everyone to buy a bible from another place that they approve of.
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The problem with paper bibles is they stay the same forever.
But an online bible can be kept up-to-date so they can make sure it reflects God's Word in real time.
As God speaks, His Word can adjust on tablets in KHs around the world!
And the brothers can get extra help to understand the import of scriptures, so the 'abstain from blood' bit could have an animated gif of someone refusing a transfusion so readers can have no doubt of what Paul meant.
- The elders' version of the bible can have links to the elders' book so they don't forget all the extra secret bits.
- The Sister's bible will have the verses about subjection set to glow red.
- MS's will hack their version so lists of jobs that need to be done at the back of the hall will pop up at timed intervals though the meeting, especially during the boring talks.
- Kids' editions will have real explosions for Armageddon and HD graphics for the birds picking out eyes of bad children.
So, electronic bibles would be a very fine provision of the faithful slave ... see them Write God's Word Daily!
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Did a householder at the door ever cause you doubts
by perfect1 inrecently on a saturday morning there was a knock on my door.
two ladies asked me if i was familiar with the jws.
i said: yes unfortunatley.
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Yep. But only after I was ready to hear it.
He must have been an academic as he lived near a university campus and the way he talked. I had some silly Watchtower about God existing and I rattled off the standard spiel from the usual scriptures. He said things like, 'Oh, the onlological argument...' and went on to explain the origin and faults of each argument I was putting. What that did was tell me the WTS had nothing more than the theologians and were nothing special. I was just recycling old church rubbish in another guise.
It only made an impact as they were the right words at the right time to the right person.